Hallett @ St. Andrews

[RobGordon]

I didnt notice i'd quoted myself but nice to see that you're only here for the banter, Monolith.

I would have thought you might have an opinion about the article, rather than one on the permitted posts on the GU student radio station forum.

I'm all about the banter Frank, sorry rob.

I just think posting a link with no description suggests a lack of banter & more politicised Internet leafletting. It's not that I don't agree with the views expressed, actually a lot of this I agree with the necessary discussions are good ones, merely suggesting that your posting style is shite.

Also as you know I'm still enraged that your ' what are you listening to now' thread has eclipsed my 'fictional commodore 64 titles' thread

Love, kisses & boomshanka

The Monolith

My posting shite is style: see all the banter we just had?

With a big kiss on the bottom,

Rob G.

[RobGordon]

didn't seem balanced and fair.

I like the obvious dodge of a certain Fox phrase.

Scotland is the oil and gas capital of Western Europe. Look up HM Gov documents archive from 1975. De-classified under the 30 year rule.

Yes, but it won't be in 15 years time. Look at the declining revenues and resources from Scottish oil and gas resources over the last decade. It was a valid argument when Salmond and co. used it 10 years ago, but even Salmond has stopped saying it now because he knows it isn't remotely sustainable. North Sea output fell by 38% between 2000 and 2006 and is continuing to go down. The profit on each barrel is dropping as well despite an increase in the sale price, because remaining reserves are more difficult to extract and consequently costs have increased. Whilst we'll continue to reap some rewards from the North Sea over the next decade or two there's no hope of it being big enough to support a national economy, or a sustainable economy going into the following decades.

This may be correct R.I.L, although I would like to suggest that the largest North Sea oil field in the last decade was just found about three months ago. What I'm saying is that we are constantly being lied to by Westminster, and if I may say the Scots are painted as subsidised scroungers when the reverse is true.

Scotland is, in fact doing the subsidising.

I would also say that while what you say may be true, let's not forget what mendacious toads live in The Palace Of Westminster....

[The Monolith]

What I'm saying is that we are constantly being lied to by Westminster, and if I may say the Scots are painted as subsidised scroungers when the reverse is true.

Scotland is, in fact doing the subsidising.

I would also say that while what you say may be true, let's not forget what mendacious toads live in The Palace Of Westminster....

Who gave Peter Dow the 'Rob Gordon' login details?

[RobGordon]

What I'm saying is that we are constantly being lied to by Westminster, and if I may say the Scots are painted as subsidised scroungers when the reverse is true.

Scotland is, in fact doing the subsidising.

I would also say that while what you say may be true, let's not forget what mendacious toads live in The Palace Of Westminster....

Who gave Peter Dow the 'Rob Gordon' login details?

Don't be bitter, _ I never said we couldnt see other people

[rockislandline]

This may be correct R.I.L, although I would like to suggest that the largest North Sea oil field in the last decade was just found about three months ago.

OK firstly - what I said is definitely correct, the figures and general decline are not in any way disputed. Secondly, I wouldn't get overly excited by this new find, which is potentially up to 300 million barrels. To put that in perspective, in 1999 when oil production was nearing its peak we were extracting 6 million barrels a day. i.e. this new oil field is equivalent to less than two months production when we were making all the famed dough out of the North Sea around the millennium. Whilst the oil industry is still hugely important to Scotland it is never going to make the amounts of money it did previously, and is only going to remain in decline in the coming decades. In my opinion, it is no longer a valid card to play in the 'independence would be financially beneficial for Scotland' game. Let alone the trump card many ill-informed people still believe it to be. Please note I'm not making any statement for either side of the independence argument - I'm just sick of people mistakenly using oil as a major factor in the argument.

[RobGordon]

This may be correct R.I.L, although I would like to suggest that the largest North Sea oil field in the last decade was just found about three months ago.

OK firstly - what I said is definitely correct, the figures and general decline are not in any way disputed. Secondly, I wouldn't get overly excited by this new find, which is potentially up to 300 million barrels. To put that in perspective, in 1999 when oil production was nearing its peak we were extracting 6 million barrels a day. i.e. this new oil field is equivalent to less than two months production when we were making all the famed dough out of the North Sea around the millennium. Whilst the oil industry is still hugely important to Scotland it is never going to make the amounts of money it did previously, and is only going to remain in decline in the coming decades. In my opinion, it is no longer a valid card to play in the 'independence would be financially beneficial for Scotland' game. Let alone the trump card many ill-informed people still believe it to be. Please note I'm not making any statement for either side of the independence argument - I'm just sick of people mistakenly using oil as a major factor in the argument.

I'm not actually using the oil as a case for independence, -at least not in the way you are maybe thinking. Its an example of the fact that we can't trust westminster, whatever political persuasion you may be. In recent history its the most glaring example. Scotland already leads the way in tidal, wave and wind power. I'm saying we should get away from westminster because we should All to often I hear;

'we cant afford to'.

Yes, if we did get away from westminster we'd be broke with escalating unemployment and rising unrest among the populous.

Oh... wait....

If we had got away we may not and probably would not be in the situation we are now.

[George]

[RobGordon]

etc.

[RobGordon]

looking north